Where did the Czech gold go at the end of the Second World War? Part 4 - Synthesis

Categories: Finds and rescue research in the Czech Republic , Nazi treasures

  1. March 1945 Skorzeny received an order from OKW to transfer my staff to the Alpine Fortress. This is apparently a cover order for his activities to collect gold and cash from the occupied territories.

Sometime between 1.4 and 6.4, he leaves by private car with only an aide and a radio operator to Vizovice and Kroměříž to collect his elite men.

Meanwhile, his deputy Karl Radl and 250 men from Friedenthal leave by special train for Radstadt in the Alps. The timing is not clear, Radl is already in the Alps on 26 April and takes over the 50 on behalf of Skorzeny.000 gold francs distributed by senior German officers (who probably have no idea that Skorzeny himself is not in the Alps at the time).

Before 7 April 1945 Skorzeny arrives in Vizovice and negotiates with Pawlofsky and Tutter at the castle. He organizes anti-partisan action in the villages of Ploština and Prlov, dealing with confederates and traitors (Bata). He chooses the best people and trucks and leaves for Vienna.

  1. - On 11 April 1945 he is in Vienna, looting valuables and loading cars. Skorzeny checks the defenses of Vienna, negotiates with Baldur von Schirach and sends two messages - one to Jodl and one to Hitler.
  2. - 12 April 1945 A convoy of cars with deposits from Vienna goes to Radstdt. Here they join Radl and his men (if Radl is already there).

Skorzeny disconnects and goes back to Berlin, probably following and retracing the future route of the column. He checks the road, the passability of bridges, etc. He is in Berlin no later than 13.4.1945.

13.4. or 14.4. in the morning he talks with Schörner and Hitler, last instructions.

In the evening of 14.4.1945 he leaves in the direction of Dresden, Teplice, Prague. On the way he collects deposits from local banks and probably also valuables from private collections and museums.

  1. - 18. 4. He leaves the convoy of trucks in Prague, goes to Velichovka, meets meets Schörner, takes over the deposits collected from Sudetenland and Silesia (perhaps the gold train from Ksiaz). In Prague or on his way south near Štěchovice he takes over the gold of the Czechoslovak bank and probably other deposits (insignia of Charles University?). He returns to his convoy of trucks and continues south.
  2. - On 21 April, he and one of the trucks separate in the direction of Františkov and Šumava, what he took from there is unclear. It is unlikely that he left anything behind. He is promoted to colonel (SS-Standartenführer).

27.4. He meets Radl, they successfully reach Rosenheim high in the Alps, waiting for the boss.

29.4. The prisoners, including Mr. Houska, escape.

29.4. - 19.5. They are in the Alps, (30.4. at the train in Radstadt they have a funeral for Hitler), they hide the imported cargo.

Skorzeny's post-war tasks - working hypothesis

It can be assumed that Skorzeny's task was not only to secure and store large amounts of currency and gold, but that he was to use these funds for some task. A task which he was to accomplish after the defeat of Germany and to which he was entrusted by Hitler. Although Hitler convinced the generals on 30 April that the goal was final victory, it must have been clear to him that Germany was defeated. When he came to this conclusion is not entirely certain; in any case, towards the end of the war, despite his verbal speeches, he was making actual preparations for action after the war. He set up the Werwolf organisation and tried to store the gold deposits of the Reichsbank. He set up Squadron 200. One of its commanders described its tasks (as early as 3 November 1944) as follows:

The squadron still had a remarkable and capable transport capacity -he named two BV 222s (the largest flying boats up to that time), then a number of aircraft such as the Ju 252, Ju 90, Ju 290, Ju 186, He 111, various cargo gliders, and some captured and converted enemy four-engine bombers like the B 24 Liberator and the B 17 Flying Fortress. Tasks were almost exclusively focused on measures after the expected total collapse. For example: agents with almost no intelligence were transported into enemy territory.but were obliged to carry out political activity in these territories for Germany after the end of the war....

...Finally, the transport of agents and their supply was only one of the many tasks of this squadron. These included:

Planning and preparing strategic bombing attacks on Soviet electricity supplies. Preparing long-range aircraft to transport important materials from far abroad.) Attacking important targets at key points on the front with bombs and remote-controlled missiles - flying bodies. Testing new weapons.

And finally, the best part; preparing land and water based aircraft to allow high-ranking figures to escape.

(P. W. Stahl in collaboration with Manfred Jäger: GEHEIMGESCHWADER KG 200 - verbatim quotations, emphasis by the author)

We know that Hitler was convinced that war between the Western Allies and the Soviet Union was inevitable, and then the Allies would greatly appreciate soldiers and officers with experience on the Eastern Front. (This idea was not entirely out of the question; it is well known that the American General Patton declared "We fought on the wrong side" and that the possibility of war between the Allies and the Soviets was very seriously considered, for example on the 23rd.November 1954 Winston Churchill: "Even before the end of the war, when the Germans were surrendering by the hundreds of thousands, I telegraphed Lord Montgomery to collect and store German arms conscientiously so that they could beto be easily and quickly handed over to German soldiers in case we were forced to co-operate with the Germans because of further Russian penetration of Europe."Churchill even had plans for such an operation against Russia drawn up in cooperation with the Wehrmacht - Operation Unthinkable, for example here: Winston Churchill was already planning a war against Stalin in 1945. It was unthinkable | SECURITY MAGAZINE (securitymagazin.cz)) It was therefore necessary to put selected officers in a safe place so that they would survive the most risky period in the first years after the war. As is well known, for this purpose the post-war organizations ODESSA(ODESSA - Wikipedia) and die Spine(DieSpinne - Wikipedia) were created, which organized and financed the escape of wanted Nazis, mainly to Argentina and Chile.

It would have been perfectly logical for Skorzeny to have been entrusted with this type of task. In the last year, he was in control of planting agents behind the front (even sleeping ones), he was in control of the production of fakedocuments for these agents, he was very capable organizationally and had hundreds of loyal officers and soldiers to assist him in these tasks. Last but not least, he was extremely careful not to commit anything that would contravene the law of war. Before every action he took, he had a legal opinion drawn up to ensure that the planned activities were in accordance with the law. Logically, therefore, both Skorzeny and Hitler assumed that, if Skorzeny survived the end of the war, he would be placed in a prisoner-of-war camp and would soon be released, and thus be able to begin work on the assignments he had received from Hitler in March and April 1945. They probably assumed that high-ranking Nazi politicians would be prosecuted, but that was not to apply to soldiers and officers unless they had committed crimes. They could not anticipate the Nuremberg Tribunal because nothing like it had ever arisen before. Even Kaiser Wilhelm II lived comfortably in Belgium after the end of World War I. Napoleon I was also not tried or executed he was only exiled first to Elba, then St Helena. But the Second World War was already a plebeian war and the people wanted to see heads like in the French Revolution. And the politicians decided to give them the heads even at the cost of violating many principles of law that had been in place since Roman times. That's exactly what happened to Skorzeny.

His captivity itself was quite a comedy, worth reading in his memoirs. It's worth noting that Skorzeny told his interrogators that he was not afraid of any trial. If he was afraid, he could easily escape to Spain by plane - the Ju 88 was at his disposal. Skorzeny went into this with illusions, from which he was immediately disabused by the American driver who was taking him into captivity, when he declared with certainty that Skorzeny would be hanged. He was imprisoned and later tried at Nuremberg (not in the first stage with top politicians, but later). He successfully defended himself, and was eventually acquitted of all charges as one of the few defendants. However, even after his acquittal he was not released by the court, he was left as a prisoner in a former concentration camp for "de-Nazification". He had been there for over two years when another trial began to threaten him - Czechoslovakia requested his extradition (apparently on instructions from the Soviet Union) with charges of the Ploshchina and Prlova massacres. This massacre was perpetrated by his former officers Pawlofski and Tutter, who defended themselves by saying that Skorzeny was present and personally in command and they were just following orders. Today we know that was a lie and Skorzeny was innocent, but that probably wouldn't have helped him. If he had been extradited to Czechoslovakia, the Communist courts probably wouldn't have bothered much with any proof of guilt or innocence (this was just after February 1948). The fact that he was a high-ranking (and very successful and capable) SS officer would have been enough to hang him. Or maybe not, Skorzeny wrote that he was offered the rank of colonel in the Red Army by the Soviet Union and the building of special forces for Stalin. It could be possible, after all General Paulus had lectured Soviet officers on German war tactics at the cadet school after the defeat of his army. Anyway, it was the devil's offer, which Skorzeny probably didn't want to take advantage of. All Stalin had to do was make himself miserable and his head would have fallen without any trial.

So Skorzeny had only one chance - to escape from the prison camp. He did so on July 27, 1948. He writes that he announced his intention to escape to the camp commander, who laughed at him, and then Skorzeny climbed into the trunk of the commander's car and had himself taken away. This is a good anecdote and fits Skorzeny, but we have a more plausible version. According to this one, his loyal officers dressed up in U.S. military police uniforms, drove up in an American jeep, and just picked him up from the camp and drove off. Personally, I would lean towards the even more conspiratorial version - that it was all arranged with the American side, with the CIC (the predecessor of the CIA). The Americans were certainly not interested in delivering such an important figure into Russian hands, but they could not officially refuse a court request from Czechoslovakia for extradition. Because of public opinion, they also could not hire Skorzeny and take him to the US as they did von Braun and other experts - after all, he was a soldier and not long before that he was a terror in the ranks of the US military. So they supplied uniforms, a jeep, allowed communication and planning, and then laughed in the face of the Czechs and said, "Sorry, he escaped." That makes sense to me. Anyway, you don't do things like that for free. What did Skorzeny have to offer the Americans?

Skorzeny was a very competent engineer, and even early in his career he was praised for many innovative solutions. Towards the end of the war, he was responsible (among many other things) for dropping off agents and returning them. This was already a problem in WWI and continued in WWII. Deploying agents is a pretty simple problem. An agent simply jumped out of a plane at night on a grey parachute. But retrieving him was much more difficult. It involved finding a suitable landing and takeoff area, arranging a signal with the agent, landing on that area, loading the agent, and taking off. There were few such areas in the target area, and the enemy guarded them, or you could just pull a wire and the landing became a crash. I recommend the French comedy "Seventh Company under a full moon", there the troubles of such agent pick-ups are presented quite clearly. Skorzeny solved the problem. He invented a structure that the agent put on himself and the plane picked him up in flight. Huge reduction in risk, expanding the possibilities of places to pick up the agent, and much safer for the plane as well. How this worked is shown in the Bond film "Thunderball", where in the final scene the plane picks up Bond and BondGirl from the lifeboat in flight. Strangely enough, as Bond films are full of absurd and contrived constructions by Mr. Q, this construction matches quite well with surviving photographs from the war when Skorzeny tested this system.

The hypothesis that Skorzeny paid the Americans for his escape with this technology is not a complete fantasy, but is supported by testimony and press reports. There is a press account on page 152 of the book "The Hunt for the Scarred Face" that Skorzeny was in the USA in September 1948 and demonstrated the picking up of an agent by flying a plane there.

Anyway, he spent most of his time in Europe where he was an escaped prisoner. A prisoner with a face everyone knows. Where was he hiding? There are many theories, in my opinion the most likely (in light of later events) is that he was hiding on his niece's farm (other sources say the daughter - I'd rather guess the niece). Hjalmar Schacht.

Who was Hjalmar Schacht? Genius financier, creator of Hitler's economic miracle in Germany in the 1930s, President of the Reichsbank from 1933 to 1939, Minister of Finance from 1934 to 1937(Hjalmar Schacht - Wikipedia). Later imprisoned by Hitler. After the war, like Skorzeny, he was tried at Nuremberg and acquitted, but sent to forced labor due to denazification. He was released in 1948 and founded the Deutsche Außenhandelsbank Schacht in 1953.

In the meantime, Skorzeny had begun (with delays due to the trial and denazification prison) to work on supporting the escape of other Nazis to South America and elsewhere. He clearly had access to false documents, and he also had plenty of funds.

Julius Mader describes this suggestively in The Hunt for the Scarred Face (p. 164 - the question is what are the facts and how far he let his imagination run wild):

One fine autumn day, when the leaves were glowing with vivid colours, a long figure slipped through the back entrance of the "Collegio Teutonico di Santa Maria dell Anima" in Rome. In this Catholic theological institute, permeated with the sickeningly sweet smell of waxflowers, Skorzeny was greeted by ...

In a similar vein, Skorzeny here describes his meeting with Hartmann Lauterbacher, who was under the protection of Bishop Hudal and together they devised the ODESSA plan. Other authors, however, share this version.

In the book "I Skorzeny .." the author R. Cílek writes on this topic:

With his influence and money he co-organized and supported the secret organization ODESSA (Organisation der ehemaligen SS Angehoringen, i.e. The Organization of Eternal SS Members), which took care of the escape, hiding and permanent support of SS members. This included those who had been involved in high positions in the horrific crimes of the Holocaust, among them M.D. Josef Mengele, Adolf Eichmann and the commander of the Treblinka extermination camp, Franz-Paul Stangl.

Cílek believes that Skorzeny financed this organisation from the proceeds of his business. This is a bit of a naive idea, the costs of this activity must have been enormous and certainly could not be covered by the income from the construction company in Madrid and the farm in Ireland. Rather, these businesses served to hide the real source of the money. Indeed, such operations are complicated even from a technical point of view. It is not possible for someone to take a bar of gold weighing a few kilograms, walk into the nearest jewellery shop, withdraw the cash and go with...to bribe a bishop in the Vatican and a sea captain for documents and to take a bunch of war criminals across the ocean. That's not really how it works. From this point of view, we consider it important that his second wife was the daughter (or, according to other sources, niece) of the banker and 'Hitler's financial wizard Hjalmar Schacht'. If he controlled the bank, this was technically already possible. The wedding took place in Madrid on 1. March 1954 Robert Steinbauer (actually Otto Skorzeny) to Ilse, the divorced Countess Finck of Finckenstein with the maiden name Ilse Lüthj of Kiel, daughter (niece) of Hjalmar Schacht, at that time the owner of the bank in Düsseldorf.

His visits to Argentina, President Perón and his wife Evita also fit this pattern. It seems logical that the Nazi cover was not free and that Skorzeny, as their banker, had to personally arrange the financing of their political cover. Skorzeny was apparently there right at the turn of the 40s and 50s and also went there right after his marriage in 1954. By the way, he was free to move around, in January 1951 Skorzeny's name was removed from the list of persons prosecuted by the West German police and 8.On November 11, 1958, the Vienna Regional Court closed the Ploštin case and Skorzeny could be issued an Austrian passport.

This does not mean, however, that he was not in trouble. He was very hard after by the Jews, who were not at all interested in any acquittal at Nuremberg. The Mossad sent a group to Madrid to get him, but Skorzeny identified them and confronted them with a gun. But Israel had other problems at the time, Egypt was ruled by President Gamal Nasser, close to the Soviet Union, and had a missile program run by former German specialists von Braun. This was a mortal threat to Israel. They made a deal with Skorzeny to stop the program. They offered him money, but he refused because, and I quote, "I have enough money." He wanted the Jews not to come after him anymore, both his own Mossad and Simon Wiesenthal's fanatics. Skorzeny sent letter bombs to Egypt and personally shot the chief specialist Heinz Krug in Germany on September 11, 1962. The Nazi Who Became a Mossad Hitman - The Forward

In his book, Skorzeny poses as an ordinary man who leads an ordinary life as a small businessman after the war. The opposite was true, and not only because of his involvement in Mossad actions. The story of a journalist who was one of the few who got the chance to interview Skorzeny while he was in hospital after a tumour operation is telling. The journalist was picked up in a car by several men of professional demeanor, driven around in the car for a long time, checking to see if they were being followed, before visiting the ailing Skorzeny. He undoubtedly had a bodyguard of many men around him like the American President. Also, his travels around the world, repeatedly to Argentina and his close relationship with the Argentine President and his wife do not testify to the mediocrity of the small businessman.

We can conclude that it is very likely that in late April and early May 1945 he stored the contents of five trucks in a prepared hiding place near the town of Rosenheim in the Alps.trucks, probably with gold and currency from Berlin, Poland and Bohemia, plus what they looted in Vienna on 8 April, plus what they received in the Alps at the end of April from the SS Treasurer General, Colonel Josef Spaczil.

Skorzeny apparently returned to this treasure repeatedly after his escape from the denazification camp. I reckon he didn't trust anyone. Even his officers probably did not know the way to the treasure, otherwise he would not have needed prisoners. Even though the prisoners escaped, he must have managed to hide the hoard himself. He probably did not even try to take the treasure to the vaults of his father-in-law's bank; he only used it to clean up the provenance and convert the gold into cash or make secret transfers. It is also known that the Nazis (probably Skorzeny's people) blackmailed and pressured German businessmen for massive financial contributions to ODESSA. It can be assumed that he had the Rosenheim treasure as an iron reserve, which he only tapped if he had no other source of money. The treasure at Rosenheim would certainly have been worth many billions of dollars, but the expenses involved with the escape of many thousands of war criminals across the ocean and their political cover were also enormous. Though it didn't provide any sweet life for them. It ensured their survival, transportation, false papers - and enough. Even a man like Eichman had to work as a factory worker and live in a miserable house. Skorzeny didn't spoil anyone.

Did Skorzeny spend everything? That's a difficult question. He was known to be very thrifty. He bargained even when he paid with counterfeit bills in Yugoslavia. The strange thing is that only 8 or 10 days before his death he came to Germany to visit his old friends to talk to them "about the old days". He must have been in a lot of pain and the tumour on his spine made him almost immobile. In 1970 he had two tumours removed from his spine in Hamburg, but he was paralysed from the waist down. He spent six months with a physiotherapist and after six months he was able to walk. One would think that the old comrades would rather meet at the bedside of their dying commander in Madrid than have such a seriously ill man go to Germany to see them. He died of lung cancer 8 days later on 5 July 1975 in Madrid. At his funeral everyone reunited in Madrid anyway. One is almost led to believe that the purpose of the trip was to physically show the heirs a place of refuge and to pass on the task of continuing to fund some activities. Did it work? I doubt it. It's not known that his officers have made a fortune. It must have been beyond Skorzeny's iron will to get away from civilization in such dire health.

So we can conclude that somewhere near Rosenheim, or possibly in the vicinity of Hitler's former Alpine headquarters "Eagle's Nest", the rest of the treasure is probably still hidden. It will be some object - maybe an old barn or an unoccupied house, maybe a mine shaft or a mine workings. In any case, out of sight from any village or inhabited building, so that the hoard can be secretly retrieved or hidden, but not far from any passable road, because hauling the contents of five trucks many miles through the woods is not feasible. It would be wise to get an old pre-war map of the old mine workings to see if there is anything there.

Anyway, I wouldn't go for it even if I had accurate GPS coordinates. Because if there's one thing that's for sure, it's that Skorzeny mined it thoroughly and professionally.

Assessing the probability of Mr. Houska's testimony.

Arguments against:

  • We have no source other than Mr. Houska's testimony. If Mr. Houska made it up, my whole analysis falls apart.
  • The testimony was not given until the mid-1960s, when Nazi forged banknotes and documents were being fished out of the Black and Töplitz lakes. There were many false witness statements at that time.

The arguments for:

  • This testimony is very sober and seems credible. It contains many details that were unnecessary to make up (for example, the turning of the prisoner car towards Munich), whereas it does not contain details that false witnesses usually make up.
  • Mr. Houska writes that they left Berlin on the evening of 14.4.1945. It is clear from other hints that they travelled through Bohemia in the daytime. It makes sense - in mid-April the area between Berlin, Dresden and the Czech border was within range of the Soviet tactical air force. A German convoy by day would surely have been attended to by a Soviet Lavochkin. So they had to cross Germany at night. That Houska would have conjectured such details if he wasn't telling the truth is more than unlikely.
  • Houska was demonstrably released from a concentration camp, there is evidence of this in Prachatice.
  • Antonín Kunc claims to know "from independent sources" (which he did not name) that Skorzeny was negotiating with K.H Frank at the time when the column was in Prague, according to Houska.
  • The description of Mr. Houska's trip fills perfectly the blank in Skorzeny's biography, which other authors have also noticed.
  • The description does not conflict with any other credible observations of Skorzeny in other places (in the AlpsAlps, as claimed), on the contrary, there are several vague and not precisely timed observations of Skorzeny from North Bohemia (mentioned in internet chats).
  • The assignment of Skorzeny to a major mission of this type at the end of the war makes logical sense and makes a differencel from his claim that he had essentially no specific assignment at this time.
  • The most substantial argument supporting the credibility of this testimony, in my view, is the fact that it essentially refuted Czechoslovakia's charges against Skorzeny in the Ploshchina and Prlov case. I believe there is no doubt that if this testimony could have been challenged or discredited in any way, the STB would certainly have done so.

On the basis of the foregoing arguments, we find Mr. Houska's testimony to be credible.

We could end here with the sad observation that the romantic notion of searching for Nazi gold in Bohemia is passé because it has already been taken away and spent. But there are still many unanswered questions and uncertainties:

  • What was Skorzeny doing in March 1945? What we know certainly does not correspond to his normal activity.
  • Why was Gestapo chief Heinrich Müller present at the departure of his column on 14 April, and why did his deputy and secretary go with the column? There must have been a reason, there were no trips back then.
  • What boss was Skorzeny waiting for on 28.4.1945 in Rosenheim?
  • Where did the hidden Ju 88 come from, which Skorzeny mentions as a possibility of his escape to Spain? Between 30.3. when he was ordered to move to the Alps and 20.5. when he surrendered there is no documented contact with the Luftwaffe.

The book says that Ernst Kaltenbrunner was apparently thought to be the boss(Ernst Kaltenbrunner - Wikipedia). This could be possible, Kaltenbrunner became head of the RSHA, the Reich Security Main Office, after the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich, so he was the direct superior of both Skorzeny and the Gestapo. He did fly in a Storch. On April 20, 1945, he attended Hitler's birthday party in Berlin and then left (I have not been able to find out whether by Storch or by another plane, and I have also not been able to find out the exact date of departure). Still in April 1945 Kaltenbrunner moved to Salzburg, leaving his wife and children in Strobl on the Wolfgangssee, and then spent most of his time at Villa Kerry in Altaussee, with his young mistress (who gave birth to twins there in March 1945. On May 5 or 5, Kaltenbrunner left the villa in the early hours of the morning and fled into the mountains to an alpine hut called Wildenseehütte.(The Great Kaltenbrunner Hunt, or What Nineveh_UK and I did during the summer holidays (livejournal.com))

But there are things that don't quite add up here. It's over 130 kilometres from Strobl to Rosenheim. Besides, Skorzeny was friends with Kaltenbrunner for many years, he would probably say in an informal conversation that he was waiting for Ernst. I've read a lot about Skorzeny (especially his memoirs) and I've found that he reserved the term "boss" for someone else - namely Hitler himself.

We know for a fact that Hitler called a Fieseler-Storch plane with two excellent pilots - General von Greim and Hannah Reitsch - to his bunker on April 24. The plane was damaged by fire and Greim was badly wounded. It is speculated that this was the plane Hitler wanted to use to escape from the bunker. Incidentally, it was certainly this plane that the semi-amateur Skorzeny would have thought to use for this purpose, as he used this very plane to evacuate Mussolini and himself from the Gran Sasso mountain.

Anyway, it was not a good choice. A plane without any armour, with a top speed of 175 km/h and a range of 380 km would have been at the mercy of any Allied fighter. In addition, the short range meant that the aircraft would have to land and refuel on Protectorate territory. The only advantage would be that it required a short runway. https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fieseler_Fi_156

What plane would a professional, which von Greim undoubtedly was, recommend to Hitler? I believe the Junkers JU 88. It was a medium bomber, a plane specifically designed for high speed to be able to outrun fighters. Top speed in the S version up to 615 km/h, range over 2000 km, lightly armoured fuselage and engines. Before an Allied fighter could recover, the plane would be in the trap. https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_88

And it was the JU 88 that was found at Skorzeny's. Skorzeny explained it this way:

Quote from the book I Skorzeny

A week later, the Third Reich capitulated. There was only one question left: What would happen next? Skorzeny was also clear on this point: "I could quite easily have committed suicide, as many of my fellow soldiers did. I could have also - and very easily - escaped to a neutral country aboard one of the still-ready JU-88 aircraft. But I was reluctant to leave my country, my family and my friends. I had nothing to hide, I did not take action, I did not do anything that I, as a true soldier, should be ashamed of. I decided to voluntarily enter captivity and sent two couriers with this message to the American divisional headquarters in Salzburg."

It is possible that the whole operation was not "merely" a collection of gold from the eastern regions of the Reich to finance the escape of high-ranking Nazis, but was covering the escape of Hitler himself?

Most people believe that today we have ironclad certainty, backed by forensic evidence, that Hitler did indeed commit suicide in his bunker in Berlin on April 30, 1945. A minority of people, on the other hand, are convinced that Hitler and his wife Eva Braun escaped and lived out their days in South America.

Only a few people feel that the available information should be reassessed in an unbiased and objective manner. And for those few people, there will be a final chapter - next time.

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Píšeš, že 29.4. – 19.5. Jsou v Alpách, (30.4. u vlaku v Radstadtu mají tryznu za Hitlera), ukrývají dovezený náklad.

Tohle mi moc jasné není, protože jestli uvádíš, že někde poblíže Rosenheimu, případně v okolí bývalého Hitlerova alpského sídla „Orlí hnízdo“ je zbytek pokladu patrně pořád ukryt, tak pak si říkám, jak by ten poklad ukrývali v Alpách, když v tom čase už Alpy byly v rukou spojenců. A ukrývat to pár dní po válce?

Vycházím z tehdejší situace na frontě, kdy 21. dubna byl dobyt Stuttgart a 26. dubna dorazila vojska 7. americké armády do Mnichova, ideologického centra třetí říše, kde se zrodila NSDAP a kde se z Hitlera stal politik. Mnichov padl 30. dubna. Mezitím se spojenecké armády musely vypořádat s tzv. alpskou pevností, jak německá propaganda označovala údajně těžce opevněný prostor v jižním Bavorsku.

Všechno, jak jsem to pročítal, tak to má logiku až teda na tady ten čas ukrytí pokladu, to mi nějak nesedí. Jak si to vysvětluješ?


Hodně zajímavé. Parádní čtení. Jaká je asi skutečná pravda?

To VendelinDindung.

Omlouvám se, ale podkladů je strašně moc a já musel udělat selekci, jinak by to nebylo ke čtení.
Faktem je, že poslední informace, kdy můžeme dle výpovědi pana Housky identifikovat náklaďáky s pokladem je 28 duben v Rosenheimu. Pak to bylo ukryto - kdy a kde je otázka. Myslím, že hned následující den či dva, ale to nevíme. Skorzeny se vzdal Američanům 20. května, potom už nic ukrývat nemohl. Takto jsem došel k tomu časovému intervalu. Američané rozhodně neměli Alpy pod úplnou kontrolou po dlouhou dobu po válce - určitě Skorzenyho do onoho 20 května neobtěžovali a nemusel se bránit žádným útokům. Obsazení Mnichova je v této souvislosti irelevantní.
Mimochodem tomuto mnou uvedenému časovému intervalu odpovídá docela dobře i jeden z dalších zdrojů, který jsem v rámci zkrácení a přehlednosti textu výše neuvedl. Když se ale ptáte, přikládám níže relevantní text i se zdrojem:

"Koncem 90. let se objevilo svědectví Rakušana Wolfganga Mittermayera, jednoho z posledních žijících členů německé elitní jednotky Alpský ochranný sbor, které velel Hitlerův oblíbenec Otto Skorzeny. Tento odborník na speciální operace proslul například riskantním únosem Benita Mussoliniho, internovaného v roce 1943 v hotelu na hoře Gran Sasso, či zorganizováním maďarského převratu v roce 1944. A podle Mittermayera měl dohlížet na ukrytí pokladu nesmírné ceny.

Zhruba 500 vojáků Skorzenyho jednotky prý mezi 20. dubnem a 18. květnem roku 1945 zorganizovalo akci na záchranu říšského pokladu. Speciální vlak pendlující mezi Berlínem, Vídní a Berchtesgadenem, kde stálo Hitlerovo alpské sídlo, přivážel podle člena Skorzenyho komanda velké množství beden s neznámým obsahem. Mittermayer údajně patřil k oddílu, jenž doprovázel konvoj s bednami a těžkými jutovými pytli až k hoře Dachstein: tam za přísných bezpečnostních opatření převzaly náklad jednotky horských myslivců. Podle jeho svědectví šlo o tzv. Mussoliniho poklad – zhruba 120 tun zlata, které italský vůdce během kariéry nakradl."
Zdroj:
https://www.stoplusjednicka.cz/ukradene-poklady-kde-se-skryva-zlato-nacistu

Burdene, jo jasný, v pohodě, vůbec se nemusíš omlouvat.

OK, dejme tomu, že spojenci neměli pod úplnou kontrolou Alpy, ovšem i tak mi to přijde jako riskantní operace jít ukrýt takovou zásilku na území, které kontroluje nepřítel, byť teda ne dokonale.
Vždyť na cestách musely být kontroly, atd.

Na cestách kontroly nebyly, Skorzeny projížděl ještě neobsazené území. Protektorát byl klidný. Můj otec tenkrát žil jako kluk v Českých Budějovicích a říkal, že jako skauti tehdy na silnice házeli "ježky" udělané z hřebíků. Pokud prchající Němci s náklaďákem píchli, měli obrovský problém, protože neměli žádné náhradní pneumatiky. Skorzeny byl ovšem na úrovni, že tyto rezervy jistě měl. Jeho riziko spočívalo spíše v možnosti leteckého úderu. Jednak při útěku z Berlína kdy až do Čech byl v dosahu sovětského taktického letectva a jednak na jihu Čech a v Bavorsku, kde operovali američtí "kotláři". Ti sice útočili většinou na parní lokomotivy, ale kolonu nacistických náklaďáků by jistě neponechali jenom tak. Měl kliku, letecký útok se nekonal. V Čechách rozhodně ozbrojený útok partyzánů na kolonu chráněnou ozbrojenými esesáky nehrozil.
Co se týče času tak Hitler zcela určitě nechtěl nic dělat před kolapsem ofenzivy v Ardenách, tedy před přelomem roku 1944/1945. Asi pořád doufal, že mu vědci dodají atomovou bombu, což by v kombinaci s raketami V2 mohl být "game changer". A určitě si myslel, že bude mít dost času, že spojenci se budou muset zastavit na Rýnu a že se budou velice těžce probíjet přes Německo. Že Německo padlo během pár měsíců bylo pro Hitlera asi velmi ošklivé překvapení a vedlo k akcím ve velké časové tísni.

Souhlasím, protektorát byl klidný, myslel jsem spíše oblast dnešního Bavorska a okolí Alp, spojenci docela intenzivně bombardovali okolí Orlího hnízda 25.4. a pokud vycházím z informací ohledně postupu spojenců, tak Alpy do 30.4. už byly v područí spojenců, takže vydávat se v té době tam ukrývat takové množství cenností... Tam už přece musely být na cestách kontroly apod.

Jakože zároveň to může být tak, jak uvádíš v posledním odstavci, že se dostali do časové tísně a pak mohlo dojít k té situaci, ovšem proč takto riskovat? Dovedu si spíše představit, že plán na uložení v Alpách nebo okolí Orlího hnízda mohl být vzhledem k této situaci pozměněn a náklad byl rozdělen a došlo k ukrytí třeba na více místech, které měli ještě pod správou náckové, možná na německé straně Šumavy.

"Dovedu si spíše představit, že plán na uložení v Alpách nebo okolí Orlího hnízda mohl být vzhledem k této situaci pozměněn a náklad byl rozdělen a došlo k ukrytí třeba na více místech, které měli ještě pod správou náckové, možná na německé straně Šumavy."

Toto možné je - viz část 1. Ten jeden náklaďák mohl klidně vézt část pokladu na německou stranu Šumavy se zdůvodněním, že všechna vejce dávat do jednoho košíku je blbost.
Nicméně ke Skorzenymu mi to moc nesedí. Já bych si tipnul, že spíše něco odvezl. Ale důkazy nejsou a je to pouze můj pocit.

Přesně tak, dávat všechna vejce do jednoho košíku je blbost a i když ti to ke Skorzenymu moc nesedí, tak těžko říct, jaké dostal instrukce.

Pěkný článek jako vždy 😃👍, už se těším na další část. A nechceš napsat knihu na toto téma, já bych si jí koupil 8-) 👍

Knihy nepíšu, dneska už stejně nikdo nic nečte. A podobných knih jsou plné odborné nakladatelství a knihkupectví, skočte si třeba do Krakatitu.

Dobrý den,
prosím vás, jsem ze skupiny Lokace Artefaktů a zrovna pátráme po jednom úložišti, kde máme svědectví od paní, která to viděla na vlastní oči.
Myslíte si, že je možné, aby OTTO byl v období konec dubna a začátek května 1945 v okolí Chlumu u Třeboně? Ve svědectví paní, máme zajímavý popis muže.
A měl bych ještě jeden dotaz. Narazil jste někde na zmínku, že by OTTO měl krycí jméno Birke? Pokud ano měl bych pro vás /možná/ zajímavou informaci.
Budu se těšit na odpověď.
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